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		<title>By: Paul Nicholson</title>
		<link>http://nicholsonrecords.com/paul/2008/03/predatorshockey-news-with-attendance-update/comment-page-1/#comment-609</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Nicholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, i turned down the trade because i&#039;d have to replace Chara on my D-lineup. There are no D-men available that are half of what he is, so i&#039;d be taking a huge hit. If we were talking about who we were drafting, then yes, i&#039;d take Cheechoo first.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But if i trade Chara away, i have to replace him on my D-core, and i&#039;ll also have to drop a forward. Sure Cheechoo would be an upgrade at forward over who i would drop, but Chara is the 3rd best D-man in the game (fantasy wise) right now. Only behind Phanuef (who i also have) and Lindstrom. The drop off to the next available D-man that i&#039;d be able to pickup for losing Chara would be to the 25th best D-man in the league, 150th overall, Pavel Kubina.&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No thanks.&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you were offering a top 3 forward in place of a top 3 d-man, then we could talk... :-)&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, i turned down the trade because i&#39;d have to replace Chara on my D-lineup. There are no D-men available that are half of what he is, so i&#39;d be taking a huge hit. If we were talking about who we were drafting, then yes, i&#39;d take Cheechoo first.</p>
<p>But if i trade Chara away, i have to replace him on my D-core, and i&#39;ll also have to drop a forward. Sure Cheechoo would be an upgrade at forward over who i would drop, but Chara is the 3rd best D-man in the game (fantasy wise) right now. Only behind Phanuef (who i also have) and Lindstrom. The drop off to the next available D-man that i&#39;d be able to pickup for losing Chara would be to the 25th best D-man in the league, 150th overall, Pavel Kubina.</p>
<p>No thanks.</p>
<p>If you were offering a top 3 forward in place of a top 3 d-man, then we could talk&#8230; :-)</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah trading a forward for a good D man is a different story.  wasnt thinking that when I posted.  Plus you are getting a ton of PIM off of Chara.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;and Cheech is far from stinking it up.  He is a producer,and will continue to produce for the rest of the year.  He is back in true form.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now if you want have him cause he is a Shark, that is just dumb.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wouldnt have a Pred on my team, but not cause they are Preds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah trading a forward for a good D man is a different story.  wasnt thinking that when I posted.  Plus you are getting a ton of PIM off of Chara.</p>
<p>and Cheech is far from stinking it up.  He is a producer,and will continue to produce for the rest of the year.  He is back in true form.</p>
<p>Now if you want have him cause he is a Shark, that is just dumb.  </p>
<p>I wouldnt have a Pred on my team, but not cause they are Preds.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Nicholson</title>
		<link>http://nicholsonrecords.com/paul/2008/03/predatorshockey-news-with-attendance-update/comment-page-1/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Nicholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, i turned down the trade because i&#039;d have to replace Chara on my D-lineup. There are no D-men available that are half of what he is, so i&#039;d be taking a huge hit. If we were talking about who we were drafting, then yes, i&#039;d take Cheechoo first.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But if i trade Chara away, i have to replace him on my D-core, and i&#039;ll also have to drop a forward. Sure Cheechoo would be an upgrade at forward over who i would drop, but Chara is the 3rd best D-man in the game (fantasy wise) right now. Only behind Phanuef (who i also have) and Lindstrom. The drop off to the next available D-man that i&#039;d be able to pickup for losing Chara would be to the 25th best D-man in the league, 150th overall, Pavel Kubina.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No thanks.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you were offering a top 3 forward in place of a top 3 d-man, then we could talk... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, i turned down the trade because i&#8217;d have to replace Chara on my D-lineup. There are no D-men available that are half of what he is, so i&#8217;d be taking a huge hit. If we were talking about who we were drafting, then yes, i&#8217;d take Cheechoo first.</p>
<p>But if i trade Chara away, i have to replace him on my D-core, and i&#8217;ll also have to drop a forward. Sure Cheechoo would be an upgrade at forward over who i would drop, but Chara is the 3rd best D-man in the game (fantasy wise) right now. Only behind Phanuef (who i also have) and Lindstrom. The drop off to the next available D-man that i&#8217;d be able to pickup for losing Chara would be to the 25th best D-man in the league, 150th overall, Pavel Kubina.</p>
<p>No thanks.</p>
<p>If you were offering a top 3 forward in place of a top 3 d-man, then we could talk&#8230; :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Hicks</title>
		<link>http://nicholsonrecords.com/paul/2008/03/predatorshockey-news-with-attendance-update/comment-page-1/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JC, I&#039;m with you 100%--as a matter of fact, I actually am the one who offered P-Nich the trade. I can understand his point of view as well, ass it&#039;s nice to have a reliable defenseman, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a bad trade for him at all. Cheechoo is definitely on fire, not only for the last month, but for the last 2 months, which truly indicates to me that he is legit. The Sharks are always going to be competitive, and he&#039;s right in the center of it. Consider this for fantasy purposes: over the last month, Cheech has only ONE LESS shot-on-goal than Ovechkin (65 to 64), the same number of goals, a higher +/- and 5x as many PIM (20 to 4). You&#039;re telling me that&#039;s &quot;in fantasy terms, relatively stinking it up&quot;? He&#039;s on par with Ovechkin!!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Don&#039;t get me wrong, Chara&#039;s good, that&#039;s why I was interested in him. But to diminish Cheech&#039;s accomplishments, even for fantasy purposes, is absurd. For the record, Chara is ranked #8 overall over the last month. Where is Cheech? #7. That&#039;s right, still ahead. And for the record, one of the only reasons Chara is that high is because he&#039;s had a short-handed point in the last month, which is like catching lightning in a bottle. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A similar fluke comparison would be a 340-pound defensive tackle in football being ranked higher than his peers because he happened to catch an interception for a TD, boosting his stats compared to other linemen. The reality could be that the QB panicked and threw it right into the unsuspecting D-lineman&#039;s gut, and when he overcame the shock and realized that he had the ball, he rumbled 10 yards in for a TD. Does it differentiate statistically? Nope. That one play propels him above the competition, even though it doesn&#039;t necessarily make him better than his peers. He just so happened to have a &quot;1&quot; in a category where his peers have a &quot;0&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s nice to have a great defenseman, but it&#039;s not a justification for dismissing the accomplishments of a forward that is giving you better overall numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC, I&#8217;m with you 100%&#8211;as a matter of fact, I actually am the one who offered P-Nich the trade. I can understand his point of view as well, ass it&#8217;s nice to have a reliable defenseman, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a bad trade for him at all. Cheechoo is definitely on fire, not only for the last month, but for the last 2 months, which truly indicates to me that he is legit. The Sharks are always going to be competitive, and he&#8217;s right in the center of it. Consider this for fantasy purposes: over the last month, Cheech has only ONE LESS shot-on-goal than Ovechkin (65 to 64), the same number of goals, a higher +/- and 5x as many PIM (20 to 4). You&#8217;re telling me that&#8217;s &#8220;in fantasy terms, relatively stinking it up&#8221;? He&#8217;s on par with Ovechkin!!!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Chara&#8217;s good, that&#8217;s why I was interested in him. But to diminish Cheech&#8217;s accomplishments, even for fantasy purposes, is absurd. For the record, Chara is ranked #8 overall over the last month. Where is Cheech? #7. That&#8217;s right, still ahead. And for the record, one of the only reasons Chara is that high is because he&#8217;s had a short-handed point in the last month, which is like catching lightning in a bottle. </p>
<p>A similar fluke comparison would be a 340-pound defensive tackle in football being ranked higher than his peers because he happened to catch an interception for a TD, boosting his stats compared to other linemen. The reality could be that the QB panicked and threw it right into the unsuspecting D-lineman&#8217;s gut, and when he overcame the shock and realized that he had the ball, he rumbled 10 yards in for a TD. Does it differentiate statistically? Nope. That one play propels him above the competition, even though it doesn&#8217;t necessarily make him better than his peers. He just so happened to have a &#8220;1&#8243; in a category where his peers have a &#8220;0&#8243;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to have a great defenseman, but it&#8217;s not a justification for dismissing the accomplishments of a forward that is giving you better overall numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Nicholson</title>
		<link>http://nicholsonrecords.com/paul/2008/03/predatorshockey-news-with-attendance-update/comment-page-1/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Nicholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forechecker:&lt;br/&gt;true enough. Post corrected.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;JC:&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m absolutely serious. First you have to recognize that Cheechoo is a forward, Chara is a D-man. Much much harder to find and replace good D-men, and i have to fill those roster spots.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Second if you look at overall fantasy production (in our league that tracks G, A, PPP, SHP, +/-, SOGs, and PIMs) Chara has been a much higher performer and more consistent. In our fantasy league Chara has been the 25th best player in our league, and ranks 8th in the last month. Amazing for a D-man. Cheechoo on the other hand ranked 120th for the year (very average for a forward) and 7th for the last month. I could never get rid of a D-man with that kind of production for a forward who has been on a bit of a hot streak.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I know that Cheechoo has probably been playing well in real-life terms, but in fantasy terms he&#039;s been (relatively) stinking it up.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Not to mention i&#039;d just never want a Shark on my roster ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forechecker:<br />true enough. Post corrected.</p>
<p>JC:<br />I&#8217;m absolutely serious. First you have to recognize that Cheechoo is a forward, Chara is a D-man. Much much harder to find and replace good D-men, and i have to fill those roster spots.</p>
<p>Second if you look at overall fantasy production (in our league that tracks G, A, PPP, SHP, +/-, SOGs, and PIMs) Chara has been a much higher performer and more consistent. In our fantasy league Chara has been the 25th best player in our league, and ranks 8th in the last month. Amazing for a D-man. Cheechoo on the other hand ranked 120th for the year (very average for a forward) and 7th for the last month. I could never get rid of a D-man with that kind of production for a forward who has been on a bit of a hot streak.</p>
<p>I know that Cheechoo has probably been playing well in real-life terms, but in fantasy terms he&#8217;s been (relatively) stinking it up.</p>
<p>Not to mention i&#8217;d just never want a Shark on my roster ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you serious about keeping Chara over a trade with Cheechoo?  You are crazy, he is in fire right now.  How many goals &amp; assists to you get from Chara EACH game?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cheech pulled 1 goal, assist &amp; 4 PIM last night alone.  He is averaging nearly a goal a game.  he is only getting hotter &amp; hotter, with the Fantasy season winding down I would consider that trade.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Who else is being offered?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I watched that Caps game.  I am so glad I anticipated Ovi having a great year and I bought those Preds Caps tickets.  7 games out till they are in town.  That is a goal a game minus 1 to be there when he hits 60. How awesome would that be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you serious about keeping Chara over a trade with Cheechoo?  You are crazy, he is in fire right now.  How many goals &#038; assists to you get from Chara EACH game?</p>
<p>Cheech pulled 1 goal, assist &#038; 4 PIM last night alone.  He is averaging nearly a goal a game.  he is only getting hotter &#038; hotter, with the Fantasy season winding down I would consider that trade.</p>
<p>Who else is being offered?</p>
<p>I watched that Caps game.  I am so glad I anticipated Ovi having a great year and I bought those Preds Caps tickets.  7 games out till they are in town.  That is a goal a game minus 1 to be there when he hits 60. How awesome would that be?</p>
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		<title>By: The Forechecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Forechecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to nitpick (someone on the Preds message boards said the same thing), but Freeman is not the majority owner.  He has the single largest holding, but not a majority...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to nitpick (someone on the Preds message boards said the same thing), but Freeman is not the majority owner.  He has the single largest holding, but not a majority&#8230;</p>
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